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TerryM
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Load up your Pod exactly the way you would for camping. Take it somewhere and have it weighed. As for the dealers, it's sad to say this but, they will do anything to sell a camper. Including telling a lie. That is a generalized statement as there are of course some truthful dealers out there. Just not many.
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gepaine
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The weight ratings for our 2008 Toyota Sienna make no sense at all to me. The GCWR is 7827, the published curb weight is 4270, and the towing capacity is 3500 lbs.
Doing the math:
7827 - 4270 - 3500 = 57 pounds
According to this, the only way one can tow 3500 pounds is to find a driver and fuel load combination that does not exceed 57 pounds!
Maybe hire a 2nd grader and only carry a gallon or two ??!!
So far our Sienna has handled fine when pulling our R-POD, but I am very cautious about how much cargo I carry.
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Gene & Linda - 2007 Escalade - 24-Foot Keystone Cougar TT- Life is not just about gas mileage!
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photog
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Curbweight is the empty vehicle without gasoline. So, 100 lbs for gas, 2 people and lets say 200 lbs of luggage makes for 700 lbs.
curbweight= 4270
+ 700
4970 deducted from 7827 = 2857 lbs, thats what you can tow.
This is without any safety margin whatsoever, and yes the manufactures tow ratings are not always explained.
Ford states it very clearly, the 3500 lbs tow rating is for the vehicle, gas and driver. Everything else that you put into or on the vehicle comes of that rating. That is why they publish a GCWR.
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Heinrich and Elly
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Larry
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So what is the people weight that auto manufactures use when doing these calculations? I mean do they calculate based on a person weighing 150 lbs; because given the obesity rate here in the U.S. I doubt if the average weight of a person is 150 lbs. I weigh 200 lbs. and that’s the preferred weight for my height and BMI according to my doctor. If they are calculating based on a 150 lb person I would think that they are under-estimating things. |
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PodPatrol
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I would assume that they do an average weight calculation.
100lbs Gas
200lbs cargo
=300lbs
subtract that from 700, you get 400lbs. For two people that would average 200lbs per.
But IMHO if your at the 500lb line (over/under) then it should be of some concern.
Over 500 and I'd feel ok with that. (over 500lbs under limit)
Under 500 then I'm concerned. (close to limit)
Ive seen some Ridgelines at their forum that are tote'n some "big units!"
But they have mod'd out their Ridgelines to compensate, to some extent, and I'm sure the RVs are of a lightweight nature.
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postalpanzer
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My experience with consumer reports has been spot on My parents were divorced but separately bought a white ford tempo and a white mercury topaz sister vehicles basically the exact same car. Consumer reports had marked on reliability a full black circle for the air conditioning and the engine. Both vehicles the air conditioning broke and both engine blocks cracked.
My nissan sentra had a full black circle on exhaust system and it rusted out three times in 5 years My dodge intrepid had a full black circle on power windows and transmission the driver side power window broke and I had to get my McDonalds drive through by opening the door and reaching around. I didnt wait for the transmission to go. |
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postalpanzer
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we have a Mercury Mariner 3L V6 six speed automatic we just got our R pod 177 Are you saying that this is not a proper towing vehicle for an R Pod?
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tdrace
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I tow with my Hyundai Santa Fe V-6 With no problems. It did not have a tow package. I had one put on at U-haul and Couch's added the Equalizer E-2 for weight distrubution and sway control. I have never had any problem so I think you should be fine.
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Theresa's Seaside Cowgirl
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Kenn
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As far as your Mariner, you should be fine with it as long as you're not planning on going back and forth to the Rockies and ensuring that you stay within the weight limitations for your vehicle. Tow ratings and such are for safety, rather than the capability of your vehicle. Usually, brakes and vehicle weight plays a big role on how much a vehicle can tow. A good example would be a RAM and a Viper: both have the same engine, but I guarantee that you'd destroy the Viper towing the same trailer you would with a RAM.
You should also watch the stuff you place in your POD, for it too has a GVWR.
Hope all is well. Good Luck!
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